Wednesday, November 05, 2008

Full Thoughts

Wow, what a night. Mainly, I'm just glad I won't be totally screwed after college. Just, y'know...mostly.

Honestly, this was a night I've been looking forward to for...I guess four years now, but I really started getting excited after I saw Joe Biden on Real Time with Bill Maher and thought "God damn, now here's a guy I can get behind." So to speak. And now to think he'll have a role in shaping the next four years is just so awesome. It'll also be nice to have a Vice President again who knows his place. Also, it'd be a lot more fun to make jokes about Sarah Palin knowing her place, because she never, ever would. Not even when talking to third graders.

But hey, can I just say, props to McCain for a truly great concession speech to cap off truly one of the oddest campaigns I've ever heard of. Wasn't as good as Obama's victory speech, but...you know...it's Obama. I found it hard to truly hate McCain during this whole racket. Maybe partially because he used to be, you know, a worthy candidate for the office of President, and I still felt some of that, all the while wondering "what the hell happened to this guy?" Although that's not terribly hard to figure out - he lost when his time came. His time was eight years ago, and he lost. And that sucks. And now he got saddled with a campaign in a year when the Republicans would have had to resurrect Reagan to have a shot at winning (and I know, I was worried and scared McPalin would take this thing, but that's mainly because I'd had my hopes dashed once already, and couldn't be bothered to get them up again), with a type of Republican party very different to the one he's capable of reaching.

Because you can say all you want about the Republicans trying to distance themselves from Bush, but this was a Bush campaign through and through. It emphasized cultural issues and in terms of presentation and aesthetics was right in line with the campaign Bush ran in '04 especially, and there were so many times when you could tell McCain was not comfortable with this sort of campaign, trying desperately to grapple with this base that was shoved on him. But he probably realized this was his last shot, and since dirty politics did him in eight years ago, why wouldn't they work FOR him this time?

So, he listened to his advisors and selected Sarah Palin, for me the final nail in the coffin. Palin will, of course, benefit tremendously from all this and continue to be a figure worthy of scorn and amusement for people like me who relish in this stuff (although it's a stretch to imagine her running in 2012), but the one thing I knew is that the extent to which she helped or hindered McCain would set the tone for this country for the next four years. If they won, it'd be true, that this is basically a nation of morons so easily taken in by charm and likeability rather than vision and capability.

Because you can say all you want about people being taken in by Obama's charm, and there is no doubt that many, many people (young people especially) fell for him, at least in the primaries, precisely because of rhetoric. This was a very tightly-run campaign, and nearly every move was so specifically calculated that it'd be impossible to look at anything Obama was saying and take it as "real." There's very little that's "real" about Obama.

But that's okay. It doesn't make him any less qualified to run the country. I don't need a real guy in that seat. The point is that those who were fooled by Obama were fooled by the right guy, because this was the job he's been educated for and trained for just about his entire life. And yeah, he doesn't have a lot of experience, but that's easy to make up if you have the right people on staff (they're the people who will determine how Obama's presidency will go, after all), and think of how many people in upper-management coporate America are under the age of 50 (or 40 for that matter). They're brought on because of their youth, exuberance, new ideas, and willingness to embrace a changing industry. And the White House needs that right now.

Finally, props to America for reminding me the country isn't totally dumb, and making me realize that it's possible to win a political race without much negativity. And props to the 18-24s for getting off their asses.

Some random stuff...

In the cinematic adaptation of CNN's coverage, Bill Bennett would be played by John Goodman and David Gergen would be played by a turtle.

Anyone who says this is the most important election in the history of the country is an idiot. Lincoln's election puts this one to shame. I'll accept most important of the modern era, but even then I'm not so sure ('68 and '32 spring to mind immediately). Culturally? Maybe. Electing a black man to President is monumental, but I think it takes more than that to make this the MOST IMPORTANT ELECTION IN HISTORY.

Holograms are frickin' awesome. It is now the future.

Campbell Brown wanted John King so bad. And his magic map.

The McCain headquarters turned off the news by 9:30 EST, and just played music and hung out. This gives them much more in common with stoners than anything the Obama campaign has ever done.

I wanted a little more drama. Couldn't McCain have pulled ahead for a half hour or something?

Fun fact: The largest voter turnout in the last hundred years was when America elected William Howard Taft in 1908. Over 65% turned out for him. Maybe we are a fundamentally dumb country.

7 Comments:

At 11/06/2008 1:30 AM, Blogger imac said...

Who plays Will. I. Am?

 
At 11/07/2008 3:29 PM, Blogger Chris Nye said...

did you not see the Brian Williams/Tom Bro match up?

I think Williams was smashed, he was making fun of Anne Curry within the first twenty minutes of prime-time coverage.

 
At 11/16/2008 1:41 PM, Blogger b said...

i think its very possible that palin WILL run (both parties start with around 10). whether she will get the nomination...that's another story. especially since the GOP system of selection is over so early. i have a hard time seeing her win either iowa or new hampshire. but if she got second in both, and then won south carolina...maybe. i think people who are worried about her vs. obama are really really getting ahead of themselves.

i also thought the mccain campaign really dishonored him. but my dad thinks he threw the election so obama could be president and you could actually probably build a case on that.

about nothing being real about obama, i do take some umbrage with that, because i think people underestimate how strong of a choice it was to run this year for him. he chose to go against a very very strong candidate, before he had hardly any washington experience. say what you will, but he def has real balls.


also, i'm just gonna throw this out there: jesse ventura would be a great president and i mean that. i saw him on larry king once, and i usually can't watch that show, but ventura was so on-target, so no-bullshit...i never thought i'd respect a pro-wrestler, but damn. also, apparantly minnesota is like the best run state and had the highest voting percentage (77.8%). so i totally get the joe biden thing. he's a great guy and i'm pumped he'll have a lot of say in foreign matters. (stephanie genuinely likes him cuz of his ultra-cheesy smile.)

 
At 11/17/2008 7:49 PM, Blogger Scott Nye said...

Running this year was the only choice Obama had. It was a year almost guaranteed to Democrats, and he and Hillary Clinton are the two highest-profile names in the party. Since the '04 DNC, he's enjoyed the kind of celebrity rarely granted to political figures outside of the White House.

If he'd skipped this election, he wouldn't get another shot until 2016 because whichever Democrat would have won this year would run again in 2012. By 2016, he'd be just another fifty-something politician, at best a respected statesman of the party; his celebrity status long gone and all of that energy from the college-age crowd that won him this election have evaporated.

Running this year wasn't brave. This was the only year in which Barack Obama could ever have won.

 
At 11/17/2008 11:46 PM, Blogger b said...

I am gonna have to really disagree with that. This was by no means a lockup year for the Dems. Hilary was polling even with McCain consistently until she dropped out, and in September Barack was neck and neck (and actually behind for one week). If the economy hadn't chosen early October to lay a brick, its hard to see this as a clearcut Obama victory. This country re-elected Bush for God's sake.

Another point: Obama scared McCain into the Palin pick. If Hilary had nom, then McCain doesn't have the option of appealing to women and he puts Guiliani or Romney, or even Huckabee on the ticket, and its game over.

I think your viewpoint is a little skewed by being surrounded by younger people, but rank and file dems, like my dad, didn't trust him because he JUST got to the senate. they don't trust him precisely BECAUSE all us college kids are losing our shit. look what happened to Howard Dean.

He's a young guy, and even if a dem win in 08 automatically means a 12 win (something that's absolutely impossible to say), he's still right in his prime to run. I don't think his visability would fall much after 8 extra years in the Senate, and becoming a chairman and party leader. Its not like he's gonna lose his powers of speechwriting.

(final note: when that rev. wright shit came out, THE NEXT DAY he was in philly with a speech he wrote completely by himself. He addressed race relations in America very bluntly and honestly and it was one of the top two or three reasons he is the incumbent president. that's west wing shit, that doesn't happen in real life.)

 
At 11/19/2008 8:12 AM, Blogger b said...

http://www.avclub.com/content/feature/chuck_klosterman_reviews

klosterman on chinese democracy

 
At 11/19/2008 9:11 AM, Blogger Scott Nye said...

First, I didn't say a Democrat WIN was a lock in '12 (it isn't even now), just that whoever won this year would run again in '12, removing the chance for competition.

And I realize that inexperience was a factor for Obama, I just don't buy that it would ever have been a game-ender. Bottom line, Obama lines up more closely with policies Democrats support than anyone who was running in the GOP. Maybe that means a lot of older Democrats just wouldn't vote, but every Democrat over the age of 40 (women especially) I spoke with was as ecstatic about Obama as any college student, if not more so. I just don't buy that an old-school Democrat would vote for McCain simply because of Obama's inexperience (they might threaten to, like how Evangelical groups went on and on about how they just wouldn't vote if McCain was nominated, but in the end, of course, they supported him anyway).

The point about Palin is well taken, but that's the GOP's fault for gearing up a great campaign against Hillary and not really having a back-up if Obama actually won the nomination.

And Hillary and Obama polled evenly with McCain because he hadn't yet picked Palin. The economy helped Obama, but didn't lock it. Also, the popular vote was still pretty close, about even with what the polls were saying the week before the race, and even if you assume that, economy aside, the polls would have stayed the same from September to November, the electoral college would still have been in Obama's favor.

 

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